2008年10月3日 星期五

宗教信仰...

本人是無宗教信仰,
除了侍奉祖先之外,
我幾乎是無神論者.
近日,深夜時,
跟朋友聊天,
提到人愈大,
人生閱歷愈豐,
相對地,
愈想尋求一點心靈慰藉,
明白到身邊發生的事,
太多是控制不了,
愈感無能為力..
你總不能每當有問題解決不了,
就找朋友傾訴,
朋友自身亦有解決不到的問題,
為何自己的問題,
還要留待朋友幫自己解決,
更何況太多問題,
朋友是幫不了你...
問題終須自己面對.
但當問題是你解決不了的呢?
若它像慢性疾病般,
長久依附你身體的呢?
若這個是大家都會遇到的問題,
你只可選擇不理會,
或是無能為力的問題呢?
你心中的鬱結又怎去舒解呢?
一種超出大自然力量,
一種很'禪'的概念,
一種作為最後籌碼的虛無意識,
會否是你最有力的避難所呢?

10 則留言:

zico cheng 提到...

讓心靈平安就有方法去解決同面對問題!

Franklin Ng 提到...

"宗教信仰..."

的範疇非常之大,有些人實際D只為妻財子祿,有些人卻以宗教信仰為人生價值的藍圖,當然提供了解決同面對問題的方向,基督教講Sin的局,佛家說生老病死的局,道家說"無"。

不過最基礎還是你內心(unconsicous mind)選擇了那一套信念規則。外在世界當然影響你的行為,內心世界掌管人的行為更大。從人年日的成長,再調整內心的信念規則,孔子說五十歲學易經,另有一番體會。

Hank 提到...

Know Yourself.
I think there is no more interesting or more promising subject, none more exciting, than the study of oneself. At the age 15 or 16, one is usually immersed in oneself. There is nothing else that interests a person so much. Later he falls in love with somebody; but still he is wrapt up in himself. There is, you find, much more intelligence shown in the study of himself, and very little thought given to somebody else. He quite willingly pays a palmist Rs. 15 to get him to tell us all about ourselves. And we feel quite comfortable in the thought that we are going to be great one day - without, apparently, having to struggle to achieve greatness. There is only one subject that really appeals to us and that is ourselves. We discuss ourselves, and in an approving sort of way consider how we behave, in what manner we evolve, and so on.

It seems to me that if we think entirely from that point of view, from the point which interests ourselves alone, we shall not understand why we exist, or why anything in the world, at all, exists. Of course it is true that one has to understand oneself first before one can find out anything about life in general. Philosophy, religion and other subjects have no real value, no real sway over an individual, or have only a modicum of influence, when they only point out how he can escape certain things, how he can avoid evil, and so on. But those of us who are Star members, or belong to such other organisations, should have some conception of a definite plan in evolution.

We are in a position to examine things roost valuable to the self - things that produce in the self the desire to evolve. In all of us there is the desire to find out for ourselves how far we can understand ourselves and what affects us. The average person is far more interested in himself than in anybody else. Luxury, comfort, happiness, everything must subserve his ends. When everything has been done to satisfy himself, then only one thinks of others. When I have had enough food and sleep, I turn to think about others. That is the average view. If you have had a surfeit of love, or of happiness, you are led to think of another.

But to achieve that happiness, we must find out how far we fit into a definite plan. We must be conscious that there is a plan in which each one of us has a role to play, and must have determination with which we shall act, with which we shall create the environment into which we shall either fit - or not; and if we are willing to look at it with the right attitude we shall be able to find out how far we shall fit into that plan. For me, I can imagine that the Gods that be have said that Krishna shall fit into a certain definite plan, and that whatever else he does, shall have no value, and as long as he fits into that plan, Krishna shall evolve and be happy. I was interested and watched myself, and I could see from year to year a definite change, a definite orientation, a definite transformation and I could see what my definite role was. And so each one of us must find out what path we shall tread and what shall be our special work.

It often happens that most of us are willing to go up to the altar and pour forth our devotion. Devotion however is, in varying degrees, in most of us, but it cannot and must not satisfy us. If I went to Dr. Besant and told her: "I am willing to serve you in any capacity. I am willing to sacrifice everything and my only desire is to work at the cost of comfort, independence, and so forth," she would say, "Oh, very nice; what capacities do you bring with you. In what manner can you render service to the Master?'' Devotion must have an outlet in physical work; and so if we have to determine what role we each one of us have to play, before we offer ourselves, we must find out what are our capacities. When to a Theosophist or a Star member or anyone, the call comes to "sacrifice everything and come to the Master," it is not enough to ask the Master merely to accept our devotion; we must give Him something that will enable Him to guide us. In other words, you must have certain capacities to bring with you to the Master and not go just empty-handed. If I can go to the Master and say "I can do this or that, I can write or paint or compose music or act," He will say: "All right, that is your way. Go and find out, discover what your talents are, and once you have found that out, you will know how to suffer and to serve." For there are very few indeed who can say, "I can do this; along this line lies my sacrifice in the work of the Master. We consider that we have sacrificed when we have done without something which we can easily give up.

If I had a vision of something particular that the Teacher wanted done, I would go about with a different mind. And if I needed wealth, I would go and accumulate it, not for myself but for the Master, and in accumulating it, I should know that I have to sacrifice, and have to put up with a great deal of suffering and misunderstanding. But it is the attitude that matters. We are afraid that our capacities may not lead us along the path laid down for us. So we have to find out before we can truly serve, in what manner each one of us can serve Him, in what manner we can offer our sacrifice, and in discovering what our path is we shall find out to which type we belong, whether to the type which goes to the world and evolves in the world, so to speak or is kept in a hot-house and evolves, like a plant, equally strongly. There are people who work in the world for a number of years, who work and do everything without finding out what the real purpose of life is. They discover what their purpose is by chance, but they have accumulated all that the world has to give, and when they come into contact with the spiritual realities they give up their all that they have gained, whereas those who have grown in the hot house apart from the world reach the goal by another path.

So it does not matter as long as you have learnt what both the war Ids can give, and not till then will you be able to serve the world. Just imagine a person who is brought up, say, in a temple where he is suppressed, where he develops complexes. When such a person goes out into the world, he has a thundering good time; and it is the same with the person who works in the outside world. You cannot evolve along one definite line. You must evolve all round and until then we shall only hinder and not help.

As I know my own path, so we must each one of us discover our own path and until that discovery is made we shall not be able or fit to serve the Master. Those of us who have imagination, who have in any degree the capacity to take an impersonal view of life, can find this out. But most of us have neither the desire to serve, nor the desire to attain our path or goal.

The trouble with us is that as in the outside world, we have our own vested interests. And as long as there is the element of selfishness, we shall not discover the path. Each one of us wants the Master to come down for us; but what we have not learnt is that even if, as we imagine, He came down from the clouds, we shall not be able to serve Him, because we have not equipped ourselves for rendering Him service.

We must find out in what way we can serve, and that means the complete upsetting of oneself, one's relations, &c. It is not that we have not the desire, not the same longing that great people have; but with us it is not constant. There is not the continuous pressure that keeps us going on and on and on. It means real sacrifice, means subjugating oneself in everything and not letting the self get on top. Then we shall not warp things to suit our prejudices, but we shall understand them in a complete way; in other words, become really simple.

We must have the courage and determination to give up; and when one has achieved and climbed some distance, one discovers how foolish is one who is struggling about what is so trivial, so common. There are so many subjects with which we are struggling in a complicated manner; but if we but let ourselves expand a little, all these subjects become simple, all complications vanish. But it requires constant watching of oneself, being on the look-out to see if one is doing the right thing or the wrong thing.

Each one of us knows these things through and through, and yet if the Teacher came and asked what each one of us could do, in what way we had acted during His absence, in what way we had fulfilled our role, what would our answer be? It is astonishing how we cannot change, as we should, like a flower. Our belief though strong, is not the belief of a man who acts with a fixed determination. Those are the people, however, that the Master wants for His service, and not those who are merely devoted, without that devotion leading to action. If one can set aside one's own evolution, and work and forget oneself in the work, then one is a true server and gets nearer to the Master. It may be that I am young, that I have not suffered as the old have suffered, but if suffering can damp out enthusiasm, it is not worth having. But what has suffering taught us?

As I said at the beginning, there is nothing so absorbing as the study of ourselves. That is the only subject that is worth thinking about; because it means change. There is nobody to force the older, and so they become crystallised. What matters is to find out what we can do and how far we can sacrifice; what our strength is and what our capacities are. When one sees people in an attitude of reverence, I often wonder what they have done by way of sacrifice.

In the coming years, either one has to adapt oneself quickly to the changing current, or go right out of it all. When you have definitely caught a glimpse of the Plan, however passing that glimpse, and know that you have to go on, you just go on, because it is much more fun than just marking time. What matters is that one must do something to change. Old age does not mean that you cannot change. On the other hand, it ought to be easier for the old, because they have had experience, and they have had suffering; and yet one goes on in the same old way of perpetual neglect. If you want to earn money, go and earn millions and offer them to the Master, and you can do it if you have the right attitude. And it is the same with whatever else you want to do - type-writing, shorthand or anything else you wish to make your special work for the Master. The attitude is what matters and when once you have attained this all the rest will follow.

Know Yourself.

http://www.jiddu-krishnamurti.net/en/1925-know-yourself/jiddu-krishnamurti-know-yourself.php

Hank 提到...

希望對你自己有更深入的認識

Raymond Fung 提到...

Dear Miss Tsang,
我是天主教學校出身的,順利成章的成為天主教徒,因幼年喪母,心靈不安時或會向聖母代禱,以慰心靈,這個方法很有效。
另外,天主教相信天主派給每人一個”護守天使”您看他不到,但他會保護您直至離開人間,不知你又是否相信呢?

Franklin Ng 提到...

See! 不同人提供自己相信對的意見,並希望別人同意 and 跟隨,這是這個世界普遍的現象。

每個人都有自己的信念,組成自己的信仰...whatever the belief is

good or not; suitable or not; 只有自己才可尋找自己的信念 or 調整自己的信念。

父母幫不了、子女幫不了、夫妻幫不了、朋友更幫不了,不過各人可告知你/妳,他/她的想法 or 尋找的經驗,以作你/妳的參考。

只有自己才知道甚麼是最重要的,因為每個人的價值觀是不會完全相等。

phil 提到...

以我自己經驗,宗教並未能幫助我

宗教很想為人生找答案
其實最後你會發現人生很多事並無答案
或者只能夠靠自己賦予一個'意義'

世界是不完美/荒謬/醜惡佔多
你只能接受這個前提
玄妙在這才有動力叫人去改變它
或至少令它不會更壞
雖然力量是渺小
或最後會發現任何解決之道
皆引發另一個煩惱
所以道家說'無為'
但我會說知所進退
且盡量在不同角度看同一個問題
世界本在一個不穩定的狀態
靠各人自己領會,不能一概而論

投入一個宗教,
似是尋到人生解脫
卻也背負起這個宗教的枷鎖

也羨慕一些人很輕鬆的投入一個信仰
然後簡單地過一生
這是一種福氣

但不會是我

清醒可以是苦, 也可以是福
因為比人看得更多

上天給你的慧眼

lungstephen 提到...

hard work beat talent when talent fails to work hard!

dicky828 提到...
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dicky828 提到...

宗教...

我自己一向只膜拜哲理信奉愛。
個人不肯定,也不抗拒是否有"神"。
是怎麼樣的"神"。
(3K、摩門、真理教之類等除外)
其實無論哪個宗教哪個派系分支,
都無所謂--只要最終是導人向善。

從某層面來看,篤信宗教的教徒,
其實與病態賭徒沒兩樣,
不,是更狂,
因為信仰很可能是一個用一生作賭本,
不過更可能是永不揭盅的賭局。

但是相比起"膚淺盲目"「為信而信」的人,
如果篤信者是有目的有所求而信的說,
其實那才是最不信也罷。

試想,求仁得仁時,佳大歡喜。
求不得時,考驗、試煉、誠心不足等字眼,
也只不過變成高層次的自我安慰、
屈機式的逃避現實...
或更甚者只不過是下意識想為自己
提供一個最無懈可擊的抵賴對象。

然而別忘記了,
閣下還隨時要有「捨身成仁」的義務。
一不留神,反而"入不敷支",
反而徒添負荷。

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先暫不提一眾宗教執委
栢金遜症病況如何
比日本的右翼份子更嚴重,
對其自家門系的「黑暗血淚史」隱惡揚善,
隻字不提。


說一段小故事:
曾有朋友建議本人放低成見,
隨他一同決志信主,共享永生云云。
我當然老實不客氣:
「有說不信主的人死後都上不得天堂,
那如果有一個A君,
生來完全沒有可能接觸天父、
甚至只能信奉其他信仰的環境,
更是個一生至死從沒作奸犯科的爛好人,
那他死後能上天堂嗎?」

朋友努力但支吾,我又施毒手:
「又如果當A君知道,
另一個一生罪滿案纍、無惡不作
(其中受害者更包括A君摰親)的狗雜種B君,
在坐上電椅前最後一刻誠心大徹大悟,
死前決志受洗而
獲"赦免地上的罪"地踏進天堂。
你道A君有甚麼感受?」
「...」朋友沉思。

我又道:
「請把你自己當作A君用第一人稱回答。」
「......」朋友思得更沉。

「那麼,你認為上帝知不知道,
自己容許了這樣的事發生?」我再問。
「......」

看得出當時朋友開始冒火:
「別動氣,都只是如果的說...
不過即使你認為我偏執也好,
想告訴你"宗教"都不過是由人去"操作",
願意的話,請去翻閱一下,
身為意大利的數學、物理、
天文學與發明家伽利略,
一代天才是因何而死...」
朋友相對無言。

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其實,撇除宗教信仰,
有許多人都混淆的是,
當發生某些問題/問題解決不了,
無奈不悅,
所以想令自己驅走煩腦、重拾歡顏,
但結果總是趕不盡尋不着...

可憾的是反而沒有抽身發現,
自己在解決的其實只是情緒,
不是問題本身,
形同坐井挖井;
而當真正能解決問題懲結,
情緒自然不用"排洪"。
您或會問:
「假若問題自身所不能解決的呢?」
......那請問哪裏還有您擔心份?

自己曾聽過相當"禪"又非常有用的一句話:
「答案本身其實就在問題的旁邊。」

(內容長得過份,抱歉。)
p.s.最愛曾美華